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RaGe|DB · Post by **RaGe|DB** » 24-02-2004 00:25

-plær- wrote: I'm an attacker, albeit a shite one, and while a more powerful shot is better, and I'd like to keep it as it is, I also realise that putting more emphasis on the attack will only discourage new defenders, and undermine the ability of our current crop of elite def.

So...basically what ^they^ said, but with a paragraph of cogent prose at the beginning to avoid being called a spammer.

wow... english plz o_O

RaGe|DB · Post by **RaGe|DB** » 24-02-2004 00:32

Btw... For the DEF...
I agree it is very much wrong for the new shot power to be increased, Like onge i often notice the fact that a ball goes right through me, even onge saw it with me when he specced me.

My idea basicly for a sweeper is to get a bit of extra volley radius. Maybe before any game starts there should be a couple of classes to fill..

like 3 attackers:
1 Sweeper
1 Midfielder
1 keep

keep : Dodge, moves faster, jumps higher
Sweep : Extra volley radius
Midfield : Dunno
Attack : More shootpower

well, every player can then select the class (easy with pickups) and get their own class, this could make it more easy for a sweeper to intercept a pass with a volley

Requiem`` · Post by **Requiem``** » 24-02-2004 01:38

as i said on irc, they way attackers have an easier life won't help to kill p box defending...

[V3]Cajubski · Post by **[V3]Cajubski** » 24-02-2004 02:27

wow... english plz o_O

it was...perfect english i might add ><

Scotteh · Post by **Scotteh** » 24-02-2004 03:30

^lmao theres nothing wrong with that english

priior · Post by **priior** » 24-02-2004 07:07

how about the other way around?

instead of increasing shot power.. decrease defender's catch radius inside pbox.

this will discourage defenders to sit in pbox and just look pretty and think more about marking their men, preferably outside pbox.

Onge · Post by **Onge** » 24-02-2004 10:23

froste wrote: (the red thing is the gun, not a carrot)

What? You guys have a gun?

Doesn't seem that anyone likes the idea anyway...Oh well, one of those 'ahead of it's time' concepts that's just too zaz and wild for today's deathball player...Either that or it's shit...

-plær- · Post by **-plær-** » 24-02-2004 10:42

RaGe|DB wrote: wow... english plz o_O

Hey, I was feeling grandiloquent

But back on topic, I really like Onge's deflection idea. It would add to the real-sport feel if the game, when a keeper *just* manages to parry a wickedly powerful shot around the post. Just don't give that ability to the bots, or we'll never score against them

Post by **DavidM** » 24-02-2004 12:48

#1 Never talk about balls going thru you

I wanted to do what Fro said, lower the enemy volley latency SLIGHTLY to compensate a bit. But it's not as bad as you make it look. Keeper's just have to readjust now, they use to dodge too early at the moment.
I did sweep sometimes, I had no problems, it was just as always. I made no mistake, we lost 3:10 because I am always 1 on 3

Yesterday we had a highclass match that almost ended 0:0, defenders have all they need, to prevent enemy chances, it's just that you need enough people back there who do their job!
I don't want a single sweeper to have a chance against 2 or 3 others if they do it well.
And defenders need to readjust too. They need to get outta the box now to prevent shots.

makush · Post by **makush** » 24-02-2004 13:31

He's right.

What I have seen, basic problem most of teams have, is that their attackers can't defend...

Post by **DavidM** » 24-02-2004 13:34

no, some can, just they don't bother, or they want to but some arse is not boosting them. so prefer attacking the keeper over fast boosting back, thats the main problems here!

Onge · Post by **Onge** » 24-02-2004 14:16

DavidM wrote: no, some can, just they don't bother, or they want to but some arse is not boosting them. so prefer attacking the keeper over fast boosting back, thats the main problems here!

True. But where is the incentive for people to focus heavily on defence? Sure some 'highclass' players do, but what about the others. Is there no way we can tempt them to defend more?

Post by **DavidM** » 24-02-2004 14:18

you base it too much on pickups, and the pickup up mode IS fucked up!

Chick-kun · Post by **Chick-kun** » 24-02-2004 14:58

little bug: bots in db dont regenerate health, easy fix i suppose

priior · Post by **priior** » 25-02-2004 07:24

one of the reasons why i liekthe word sweeper (as opposed to defende) is because it removes the connotation that the "Sweeper" is the only guy responsible for defense. (notice spelling of defense)

each opponent on offense should have at least one guy covering him. sweepers and keeps cant do miracles.

if you're a sweeper and ur attackers arent boosting back.. stop boosting them forward.. they'll get the message soon enough