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Dazlin · Post by **Dazlin** » 08-03-2004 17:10

DiStUrbeD wrote: .......

Or, you can wait a few months for PCI Express to come out and get that (have to have a mobo with pcix also and agp8x cards will get a lot cheaper)

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the pci express cards will first be released as AGP cards and then pciE it wont have much of an proformance increase anyway... seeing as you never really max out the 8x AGP BUS pciE is a faster bus that may be needed in the future... but not now x_X

Onge · Post by **Onge** » 08-03-2004 18:06

-plær- wrote: ati for speed
nvidia for stability
(Both cards kick a lot of ass, and will still be very good for at many years to come)

I have a 9800pro, I wish I had a 5950. I will never buy ati again. Nonethless, if you run stable with ati, then it is the superior card. Pity ati drivers suck so hard...

The voice of reason in a sea of madness...:p

GreyFox · Post by **GreyFox** » 09-03-2004 15:01

heh , just bought ati radeon 9800 xt $\o/$

FireCell · Post by **FireCell** » 09-03-2004 16:01

yay? Dazlin i dont understand how that works, can you link me to a website that can explain what you just said..

Messy · Post by **Messy** » 09-03-2004 16:09

Radeon > GeForce kthx :>

Just that..Catalyst drivers suck ;p (be sure to use the Omega drivers tho

)

Definitely get a 9800XT

f1end · Post by **f1end** » 09-03-2004 16:10

Firecell...

I can...

Here...

Dazlin · Post by **Dazlin** » 09-03-2004 16:29

FireCell wrote: yay? Dazlin i dont understand how that works, can you link me to a website that can explain what you just said..

the BUS = speed of the data moving... pciE has 1066mhz or something x_X... pci (normal only has 66mhz or round abouts thats why pci cards dont preform as well as AGP cards... agp is slightly faster i think 100mhz and AGP 8x = 800mhz... so pciE is faster than agp.... but is not needed just yet because agp 8x is doing fine x_X

GreyFox · Post by **GreyFox** » 09-03-2004 17:11

hmm whats wrong with the catalyst drivers ?

-plær- · Post by **-plær-** » 09-03-2004 17:57

Dazlin wrote: the BUS = speed of the data moving... pciE has 1066mhz or something x_X... pci (normal only has 66mhz or round abouts thats why pci cards dont preform as well as AGP cards... agp is slightly faster i think 100mhz and AGP 8x = 800mhz... so pciE is faster than agp.... but is not needed just yet because agp 8x is doing fine x_X

Know what the hell you are talking about before you try to tell others...

Busses are the set of wires that connect the various parts of the computer together. Bear in mind that a bus is infact made of *two* busses, one for addresses one for data. The wider a bus is (bits) the more data it can pass in a single clock cycle. The faster a bus is, the more clock cycles happen. You can also fiddle with the number of bits sent per line per clock cycle allowing for even higher bandwidth (the amount of data sent per second).

PCI 2.3 (The latest pci standard, ratified in 2001) is 32bits wide, at a speed of 33.33MHz, allowing for 133.33Mb/s throughput.

AGP is what happens when you dedicate a complete PCI bus to a single peripheral. It's a 32bit bus, running at 66Mhz, with 1,2,4 or 8 bits per clock cycle (hence 1x, 2x, 4x, 8x) allowing for throughput from 266Mb/s for AGP1, up to 2133Mb/s for AGP8.

PCI Express, from what I understand, is an 8bit multi-lane bus (up to 32 lanes so far). Runs at a speed of 2.5Ghz though, which means you can get about 16Gigs of data through there every second. Essentially, you are looking at a 4 fold increase over the best throughput of AGPx8.

Capiche?

TEZC_Robban · Post by **TEZC_Robban** » 09-03-2004 18:20

O-O-O-Owned?!

Dazlin · Post by **Dazlin** » 09-03-2004 19:24

-plær- wrote: Know what the hell you are talking about before you try to tell others...

Busses are the set of wires that connect the various parts of the computer together. Bear in mind that a bus is infact made of *two* busses, one for addresses one for data. The wider a bus is (bits) the more data it can pass in a single clock cycle. The faster a bus is, the more clock cycles happen. You can also fiddle with the number of bits sent per line per clock cycle allowing for even higher bandwidth (the amount of data sent per second).

PCI 2.3 (The latest pci standard, ratified in 2001) is 32bits wide, at a speed of 33.33MHz, allowing for 133.33Mb/s throughput.

AGP is what happens when you dedicate a complete PCI bus to a single peripheral. It's a 32bit bus, running at 66Mhz, with 1,2,4 or 8 bits per clock cycle (hence 1x, 2x, 4x, 8x) allowing for throughput from 266Mb/s for AGP1, up to 2133Mb/s for AGP8.

PCI Express, from what I understand, is an 8bit multi-lane bus (up to 32 lanes so far). Runs at a speed of 2.5Ghz though, which means you can get about 16Gigs of data through there every second. Essentially, you are looking at a 4 fold increase over the best throughput of AGPx8.

Capiche?

just testing :p

what i read was a load of crap then o\

TEZC_Robban · Post by **TEZC_Robban** » 09-03-2004 21:04

Still owned :p

Dazlin · Post by **Dazlin** » 09-03-2004 21:28

TEZC_Robban wrote: Still owned :p

idd :p

Messy · Post by **Messy** » 10-03-2004 17:59

Plær = 1338

-plær- · Post by **-plær-** » 10-03-2004 18:21

Messy wrote: Plær = 1338

heh, cheers