Shitknot and Corn are bollox.. im sure everyone knows how much i dislike that "music" :p
otherwise it wudda been a perfectly acceptable thread;)
Rock in Rio - Lisboa: 04-06-2004
Moderators: Jay2k1, DavidM, The_One
fb.shev wrote: slipknot - thrash/death/HeaVy metal ... and yes it is fooking heavy!
Ahahaha, well..to be specific, although I don't consider myself a genrepurist of any kind, Slipknot would be specified as Rapcore :)
Maybe melodic Crustcore or even grinding Hardcore (not Grindcore, mind you ;)), crustcore being melodic hardcore-ish music speeded up a notch, played with fury (aka less skill, although Slipknot drummer is great :)), with short bursts of anger.
Loosely derived from Discharge and the like :) maybe they even listened to their Napalm Death ;) although I'm not sure if Slipknot had formed by then, but it could definitely be an influence :)
Anyway, I'm not sure because genre and style definitions are rather hard to do, especially over multiple albums like Slipknot, but 'trash/death/heavy' metal?
Do you even know what you're talking about? Trash, Death and Heavy all are different genres, where Trash Metal is commonly considered a style inside Trash.
Trash was made as a hybrid of punk simplicity, a lyrical love for (anti-)politics and short bursting anger, creating more alarming and short tracks with one or two metal riffs with punk accelerations etc. (think Cryptic Slaughter and Dirty Rotten Imbeciles)
Death Metal usually has muffled picking and single-string play, chanting vocals, and a grim worldview.
It uses natural intuitive rhythms, and is very much rhythmic. Heavy, often slow, and dark. (not sure of an example here, think Demigod or whatever, although I think they're often more Doom Metal-ish, which is a derivative of Death Metal ;) so mehh)
edit: oh yeah, Capharnaum are typical Death Metal too, imo :o maybe Dream Theater and Meshuggah? *insert critics here including 'Messy' and 'suck'*
Heavy metal however, began in the 1960s with Black Sabbath and the like, keywords would be power chords, paranoia and morbid.
As far as I know it was made to counter the 'love and peace' of the 60s =)
Based on European Romanticism (where later the goths were based on! I think it was 16th century, and it was a dark, vampirish, erotic-ish time :) quite interesting..but irrelevant ;)). Heavy metal later became cliché as opposed to a brilliant underground countermovement, as it moved on to stadium performances and all that commercial crap, it's now back underground-ish though, which is good :) Heavy metal is also often recognized by unfolding telling of stories etc. or 'Stadium'-ish Metal (think Kiss? not sure if they're a good example, but a well known one), using commercial, well-sounding sentimental, yet exploding riffs to create an epic..balladish..thing, bah I hate it ;)
Great examples of Heavy Metal are Black Sabbath and Candlemass.
Anyway, I could understand you if you claimed Slipknot would be Trash Metal(-ish), but it's definitely not Death Metal and NOT AT ALL similar to Heavy Metal :x
As for Fruitcake: eeeck! /o\ couldn't agree tbh :c but everyone to his own taste.
edit: if you think it's 'fooking heavy', and I think you mean 'fucking heavy', then..no ;) there's definitely loads heavier stuff in terms of rhythm, as well as pure chaos, loudness and climax.
its Thrash Metal, thought some might consider it trash 
and eugh at labelling bands...
for me, there are only two kinds of music, Good and Bad.
and yes, i can accept SLipknot's self-titled album to be RapCore, but IOWA is nothing close to that in my opinion.
And putting Slipknot in the same pocket as Korn is an huge mistake. Their music is not even similar.
Ok, Jr? 
and eugh at labelling bands...
for me, there are only two kinds of music, Good and Bad.
and yes, i can accept SLipknot's self-titled album to be RapCore, but IOWA is nothing close to that in my opinion.
And putting Slipknot in the same pocket as Korn is an huge mistake. Their music is not even similar.
Ok, Jr? 
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