2.4 plan

[1234]Jr · Post by **[1234]Jr** » 13-12-2004 16:38

rofl @ last 'change' ...

gg

R3L!K · Post by **R3L!K** » 13-12-2004 16:39

lol @ noobcannon msg

theberkin8or · Post by **theberkin8or** » 13-12-2004 20:53

i really hope you don't make any decision for regular play based on making multi ball work. If you are going to make multi ball you are going to have to make certain things different for it than standerd play.

The karma ball sounds very interesting and could be quite an improvement i just hope you get it right with one ball before you try and make multiball anything near serious.

I do not believe that this game will function very well with two balls except on very specialized maps and even then it would not be close to the same game.

FeEdiKo · Post by **FeEdiKo** » 13-12-2004 21:01

/me is waiting for the multiball only, smallcube only, VO servers...

Rino · Post by **Rino** » 14-12-2004 03:27

and with REPLAY ON!

StRaFe · Post by **StRaFe** » 14-12-2004 11:14

shev >_<. I agree keeping vo shots out of goal in a 5v5 is hard, lag fps gg etc. But in a 3v3, 2v2 depending if its out side the box, it aint going in for me

theberkin8or · Post by **theberkin8or** » 14-12-2004 14:31

you guys are missing one important point this new curving volley is going to be extremeley difficult to aim. most of us have gotten really good with curve the the shot so i think you are confusing the techinque with that. You are going to have to hit the ball the exactaly right place to get the ball to curve where you want to and you don't have the time to aim you have with a shot. this is going to make aiming long shots and probably cross volleys pretty hard to do effieciantly

Post by **DavidM** » 14-12-2004 14:38

1. Short range volleys are not supposed to be saved by the keeper. Short range shots and volleys are to be prevented by the defense. An almighty keeper would so ruin it...

2. A volley banana won't make a difference on short ranges. I think it will be like the banana shot which is mainly for longer curved passes. I had no chance to test it myself yet, but Matt is working on that thing.

fb.shev · Post by **fb.shev** » 14-12-2004 16:46

i agree with you david, but sometimes you look like an almighty plonk when the balls goes past you at shortish range not very quick, but on the keepers screen it was a save. It's fine how it is i suppose, but a little benifit of the doubt for the keeper when know players are more skilled and hit top corner all the time, would be nice.

:-) · Post by **:-)** » 15-12-2004 00:05

Davey, you're starting to make me super unhappy!

1. Theres no reason to remove the

cannon because if theres either any defense or a half decent keep it's not going in (outside the PB it's easy to save, inside you try you die) . The only thing removing it does it piss people off.

2. It really sucks that the ball can go through the keep just because they're not supposed to save it. How would you like getting scored on in soccer when the goalie saves the ball, but the ref says it wasn't savable?

3. Remove the cannot volley sound!!!!! I don't know what causes it, but it pisses me off. I wouldn't care if I actually missed a volley, but the games just being mean when it makes that sound.

4. Get a hair cut!!!!!!!!

priior · Post by **priior** » 15-12-2004 03:15

3. Remove the cannot volley sound!!!!! I don't know what causes it, but it pisses me off. I wouldn't care if I actually missed a volley, but the games just being mean when it makes that sound.

it totally pisses me off too.. it;s like laughing at ur face.. "HA you could have saved,... but i made sure ud ont! muahaha"

Post by **DavidM** » 15-12-2004 03:18

1. bullshit because there was no noob cannon
2. bullshit as well, because no ball goes through anyone...
i stop reading, learn what this game is all about before you comment

:-) · Post by **:-)** » 15-12-2004 03:35

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voted for kicking DavidM >

nameless · Post by **nameless** » 15-12-2004 05:20

davidm u don t get the point. Play some games and check the shot/volley goals. U ll see 75% volley goals, cos they are too powerfull. Everyone knows it and that s why teams try to spam volleys.

Yeah right, short range volleys / shots should be about unkeepable away from the keeper just standing in the way. But even medium range volleys are about to be unkeepable, while shots become keepable.

That forces the volley spam. Plz try to find a way to equal shots and volleys.

Post by **DavidM** » 15-12-2004 07:12

Only way I see to make people shoot is to make the powerup taking half as long with the same power. But that's just us playing the game at the top limit. No matter what you change, people will reach the next limit, and you'll have to keep on changing stuff forever.

The powerup time change thing would unbalance all btw, so forget that.

There is still a lot of work to do for keepers, their main work consists of being part of the def anyway, marking players AND keeping an eye on the goal, kicking an enemy attacker in position, predicting passes to enemy attackers and prevent them before they arrive etc. There is just not much to save, because us hardcore player know how to shoot to beat the keeper. And as I said, an allmighty keeper that could in theory have a fair chance on all balls would be awful. Defense has to do their work there...