to DavidM and the DB community

HarvesterUT · Post by **HarvesterUT** » 24-03-2005 05:14

to all who care,

I am perhaps one of the most old school players around. I started playing DB since version 1.0. I had to leave the country for a year to serve with the US Army in Iraq. I am back I see DB has progressed. Some new maps have been "officially" released. I am a bit peeved b/c 2 of the maps are BLATANT rip-offs of 2 of my maps.

DB-SmallTouchdown is a CLEAR copy of my map I made back in mid 2003 called DB-SmallFootball.

Also, DB-WrongWay is a CLEAR copy of my DB-Olympus.

In fact, each map is almost the EXACT SAME MAP with some textures and visuals being different.

Anyone who is super old school will remember those maps. I'd like everyone to know who was the original creator of those maps and ideas. IMO DB-SmallFootball was a creative new twist on DB that I wished was implemented. Well it seems my ideas have been taken and absolutely no credit was given where it was due.

Sorry if this sounds like I'm a whining bi7ch...but I feel I deserve some credit.

Thanks to anyone who can sympathize....

HarvesterUT

Post by **DavidM** » 24-03-2005 12:42

Dude, I swear that I have never heard of or seen these maps of yours. That's all I can tell. They aren't super creative layouts anyway.

StRaFe · Post by **StRaFe** » 24-03-2005 14:33

sadly im not old school enough.

Scotteh · Post by **Scotteh** » 24-03-2005 18:16

Holy shit its harv, man I was just thinking about you the other day wondering if you ever got back from iraq. It's good to see you made it back safe. I remember both of those maps you made and sure enough when db-wrongway and db-smalltouchdown came out, I said that they were a complete ripoff of your maps, including many other NA dbers. NA db is still alive so come over to gamesurge.irc.net #dbmixer whenever you get the time.

Inphidel · Post by **Inphidel** » 24-03-2005 18:23

Oplimpus was pretty neat, but there was no back walls anywhere just pillars, so a bad pass resulted in alot of walking

smalfootball was played alot when 2.0 game out here in na i beleive.

HarvesterUT · Post by **HarvesterUT** » 24-03-2005 19:10

you're right, they arent super creative layouts...but at least they were different than the other 200 DB maps out there at the time.

/waves to Scotteh

Messy · Post by **Messy** » 24-03-2005 21:39

Hey I remember your maps

Sorry to tell you this, but a lot of people thought about these concepts, so it isn't necessarily based on yours.

Still nice to see you're back (even though I wasn't in any community back in 1.0, I remember your name and maps

).

Imaginos · Post by **Imaginos** » 25-03-2005 00:06

Damn.. I remember them.. And I still have DB-Olympus on my server.

XiD · Post by **XiD** » 25-03-2005 16:46

Regardless of creativity, or idea sharing, if he made the maps and they were copied, he deserves credit.

Weisso · Post by **Weisso** » 25-03-2005 18:02

i'm all for giving credit where credit is due, but there's not really much of a case here when deathball maps tend to be different forms of a box, not much room for change there

-Weiss

[1234]Jr · Post by **[1234]Jr** » 26-03-2005 01:30

I was playing UT2003 when it came out (shock) and i was playing BR (woo) and i thought "hey, this is like a footballish type game.. be good if it was more orientated toward that.."

Then i made a sketch book of maps and logos and stuff, called Deathball.

Then my book was stolen on a trip to Germany.

To this day i wonder what became of that book, and my novel and 100% noone-will-ever-think-of-making-this-generic-mod-concept

I guess it'll be a mystery..

Messy · Post by **Messy** » 26-03-2005 02:04

Pff..you were the one that stole that book from me when I thought of that playing Frag*Ball: "If only maps were more football-centered, and the players couldn't always die.."

Frag*Ball with hammer only mutator was fun :p (UT old-skool

)

Post by **DavidM** » 26-03-2005 11:10

/me slaps Jr around for some time...

Imaginos · Post by **Imaginos** » 26-03-2005 16:42

Messy wrote: Pff..you were the one that stole that book from me when I thought of that playing Frag*Ball: "If only maps were more football-centered, and the players couldn't always die.."

Frag*Ball with hammer only mutator was fun :p (UT old-skool )

Team Xeres lingered in the UT2003 world for a while, even after they packed up to move to a different platform. (Apparently the DNF one it seems) I was hosting Frag*Bert's betas via UT2Vote on the BuD#2 server as he put them out. It was a shame they gave up. I really enjoyed that mod for the old UnrealTournament as did the crew I used to LAN with/host for.

[1234]Jr · Post by **[1234]Jr** » 26-03-2005 16:49

DavidM wrote: /me slaps Jr around for some time...

I hope you're going to give credit to the people who invented /me.

and the people who invented the slap.

and time.

and english.

EH!?