teh new 1337 boost-trick u just GOTTA use.

Post by **DavidM** » 04-08-2003 11:11

no, surge only sees the one side of it...
set jumping fixes this, and ruins that
jumping will stay that way, there are other ways

Dazlin · Post by **Dazlin** » 04-08-2003 11:23

why not set jumping after you have been boosted by your own team? but the rest of the time the jumps being un set?

YoYo789 · Post by **YoYo789** » 04-08-2003 11:27

what does set-jumping ruin? db was fine with set-jumping.

Harold|ZBN · Post by **Harold|ZBN** » 04-08-2003 11:42

DiStUrbeD wrote:
Also its very fair and its defendable, there is no reason for it to be removed.

err? its very fair and defendable? first of all its not fair. because defence can do bugger all agaisnt it. so i would like to hear what u think makes this defendable??? and gimic? 4 jumps makes u stop it? that means u always stand on the side where the 2 attackers are waiting 2 boost? if u do that u leave the goal open to the guy with the ball ??? and using quad jump to stop a volley? no fucking way any half assed attacker whos floating above u can volley it past. or instead catch it and score on the way down.

GhosT_Face_KiLLa · Post by **GhosT_Face_KiLLa** » 04-08-2003 11:43

There is a way to defend it. Mark up OR boost the player whilse he is in the air normally u can reach them because they start falling, i dont see no need to take it out.

f1end · Post by **f1end** » 04-08-2003 11:43

Excuse the nubishness...but what is set-jumping....is this like db 1.3 used to be...where u have to time it right to do a quad-jump?? If so....bring it back...

YoYo789 · Post by **YoYo789** » 04-08-2003 11:51

yep that's it. you can only doublejump at the top of your arc.

Post by **DavidM** » 04-08-2003 12:48

YoYo789 wrote: what does set-jumping ruin? db was fine with set-jumping.

-Boosting ruined
-Cannot do well timed jumps
-Too friggin annoying when you miss the top for no reason (hated that in 1.3, with set jumping it felt like luck if you hit the top or not)...and with that n00b unfriendliness

Post by **DavidM** » 04-08-2003 12:52

Harold|ZBN wrote: err? its very fair and defendable? first of all its not fair. because defence can do bugger all agaisnt it. so i would like to hear what u think makes this defendable??? and gimic? 4 jumps makes u stop it? that means u always stand on the side where the 2 attackers are waiting 2 boost? if u do that u leave the goal open to the guy with the ball ??? and using quad jump to stop a volley? no fucking way any half assed attacker whos floating above u can volley it past. or instead catch it and score on the way down.

it is always a result of a defense fault, but maybe not

We do the trick quite often, its always when our attacker gets boosted away by a defender, he abuses the boost, goes up in the air, i pass him...volley...goal...
-> so defenders have to take care how and when they kick people away, random kicking = bad

you can also do a team internal boost, but this has to be prevented by the defense, they have enough players to bug the enemies while they try to boost.
If the def is good the attackers dont even come close to each other to boost.

I'm not trying to defend the move, just some thoughts about it, I dunno yet if we keep it or if I have to make up a way to prevent it.

Post by **DavidM** » 04-08-2003 12:53

GhosT_Face_KiLLa wrote: There is a way to defend it. Mark up OR boost the player whilse he is in the air normally u can reach them because they start falling, i dont see no need to take it out.

no

has nothing to do with the "1337 boost trick"
that one means the enemy is 5+ meters up in the air, no kicking away there...

Harold|ZBN · Post by **Harold|ZBN** » 04-08-2003 13:29

the problem isnt really if its defendable or not... the problem is that if it works out well its an instant goal. so if u let this trick in ppl are just gonna try and do it 50+ times in a game and certainly goals are gonna get scored even if theres a good way of defending against it. so u get a matches where a good team or a team willing to "abuse" this does it all the time.

i know for a fact that ZBN will not use it. maybe we will score a goal sometimes like this but what teams are doing now is just trying to setup for the boost trick as much as they can and then it doesnt matter if its defendable or not. they just score because of the number of times they do it.

NaB · Post by **NaB** » 04-08-2003 13:37

n1 for bringing this up harry. and if davidm delivers a solution before it becomes more of a prob ill be very impressed.

GFK, theres nothing the def can do, all u need is one guy out wide to hold the ball and the other 2 come together for a boost? how do u suggest the def deal with that?

edit- to davidm. get this sorted before the league break is over if u want the season not to end in a lame fest like last season. for once your own best interests and that of the community are the same, cY will win the league if it stays like this the rest of the way.

FireCell · Post by **FireCell** » 04-08-2003 13:45

Ive never actually seen this trick performed, other than when the defence accidentally boosts teh attacker into the air then he gets passed to (defences fault). But if clans are actually setting up this move with their own players i guess its no lamer than the original boost trick, which was taken out. Also now this post has been brought to the attention of most people im sure it will start to be used a whole more as well. Its clans that refuse to use these lame tactics that really lose out =(

Fruitcake · Post by **Fruitcake** » 04-08-2003 14:16

another form of 'boost trick' which i do not consider lame is being boosted by teh enemy .... hard to pull of but effective when they just hold down the attack button

anyway DavidM...why not bring back set jumping and have it as an option....then well see what servers will actually have it enabled

Post by **DavidM** » 04-08-2003 14:25

Harold|ZBN wrote: the problem isnt really if its defendable or not... the problem is that if it works out well its an instant goal. so if u let this trick in ppl are just gonna try and do it 50+ times in a game and certainly goals are gonna get scored even if theres a good way of defending against it. so u get a matches where a good team or a team willing to "abuse" this does it all the time.

i know for a fact that ZBN will not use it. maybe we will score a goal sometimes like this but what teams are doing now is just trying to setup for the boost trick as much as they can and then it doesnt matter if its defendable or not. they just score because of the number of times they do it.

*cough* cY *cough*

yeah, that's true