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Posted: 08-03-2004 17:10
by Dazlin
DiStUrbeD wrote: .......

Or, you can wait a few months for PCI Express to come out and get that (have to have a mobo with pcix also and agp8x cards will get a lot cheaper)

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the pci express cards will first be released as AGP cards and then pciE it wont have much of an proformance increase anyway... seeing as you never really max out the 8x AGP BUS pciE is a faster bus that may be needed in the future... but not now x_X

Posted: 08-03-2004 18:06
by Onge
-plær- wrote: ati for speed
nvidia for stability
(Both cards kick a lot of ass, and will still be very good for at many years to come)

I have a 9800pro, I wish I had a 5950. I will never buy ati again. Nonethless, if you run stable with ati, then it is the superior card. Pity ati drivers suck so hard...


The voice of reason in a sea of madness...:p

Posted: 09-03-2004 15:01
by GreyFox
heh , just bought ati radeon 9800 xt \o/

Posted: 09-03-2004 16:01
by FireCell
yay? Dazlin i dont understand how that works, can you link me to a website that can explain what you just said.. ;)

Posted: 09-03-2004 16:09
by Messy
Radeon > GeForce kthx :>

Just that..Catalyst drivers suck ;p (be sure to use the Omega drivers tho :))

Definitely get a 9800XT :D

Posted: 09-03-2004 16:10
by f1end
Firecell...

I can...

Here...

Posted: 09-03-2004 16:29
by Dazlin
FireCell wrote: yay? Dazlin i dont understand how that works, can you link me to a website that can explain what you just said.. ;)


the BUS = speed of the data moving... pciE has 1066mhz or something x_X... pci (normal only has 66mhz or round abouts thats why pci cards dont preform as well as AGP cards... agp is slightly faster i think 100mhz and AGP 8x = 800mhz... so pciE is faster than agp.... but is not needed just yet because agp 8x is doing fine x_X

Posted: 09-03-2004 17:11
by GreyFox
hmm whats wrong with the catalyst drivers ?

Posted: 09-03-2004 17:57
by -plær-
Dazlin wrote: the BUS = speed of the data moving... pciE has 1066mhz or something x_X... pci (normal only has 66mhz or round abouts thats why pci cards dont preform as well as AGP cards... agp is slightly faster i think 100mhz and AGP 8x = 800mhz... so pciE is faster than agp.... but is not needed just yet because agp 8x is doing fine x_X

Know what the hell you are talking about before you try to tell others...

Busses are the set of wires that connect the various parts of the computer together. Bear in mind that a bus is infact made of *two* busses, one for addresses one for data. The wider a bus is (bits) the more data it can pass in a single clock cycle. The faster a bus is, the more clock cycles happen. You can also fiddle with the number of bits sent per line per clock cycle allowing for even higher bandwidth (the amount of data sent per second).

PCI 2.3 (The latest pci standard, ratified in 2001) is 32bits wide, at a speed of 33.33MHz, allowing for 133.33Mb/s throughput.

AGP is what happens when you dedicate a complete PCI bus to a single peripheral. It's a 32bit bus, running at 66Mhz, with 1,2,4 or 8 bits per clock cycle (hence 1x, 2x, 4x, 8x) allowing for throughput from 266Mb/s for AGP1, up to 2133Mb/s for AGP8.

PCI Express, from what I understand, is an 8bit multi-lane bus (up to 32 lanes so far). Runs at a speed of 2.5Ghz though, which means you can get about 16Gigs of data through there every second. Essentially, you are looking at a 4 fold increase over the best throughput of AGPx8.

Capiche?

Posted: 09-03-2004 18:20
by TEZC_Robban
O-O-O-Owned?! :D

Posted: 09-03-2004 19:24
by Dazlin
-plær- wrote: Know what the hell you are talking about before you try to tell others...

Busses are the set of wires that connect the various parts of the computer together. Bear in mind that a bus is infact made of *two* busses, one for addresses one for data. The wider a bus is (bits) the more data it can pass in a single clock cycle. The faster a bus is, the more clock cycles happen. You can also fiddle with the number of bits sent per line per clock cycle allowing for even higher bandwidth (the amount of data sent per second).

PCI 2.3 (The latest pci standard, ratified in 2001) is 32bits wide, at a speed of 33.33MHz, allowing for 133.33Mb/s throughput.

AGP is what happens when you dedicate a complete PCI bus to a single peripheral. It's a 32bit bus, running at 66Mhz, with 1,2,4 or 8 bits per clock cycle (hence 1x, 2x, 4x, 8x) allowing for throughput from 266Mb/s for AGP1, up to 2133Mb/s for AGP8.

PCI Express, from what I understand, is an 8bit multi-lane bus (up to 32 lanes so far). Runs at a speed of 2.5Ghz though, which means you can get about 16Gigs of data through there every second. Essentially, you are looking at a 4 fold increase over the best throughput of AGPx8.

Capiche?


just testing :p

what i read was a load of crap then o\

Posted: 09-03-2004 21:04
by TEZC_Robban
Still owned :p

Posted: 09-03-2004 21:28
by Dazlin
TEZC_Robban wrote: Still owned :p


idd :p

Posted: 10-03-2004 17:59
by Messy
Plær = 1338 :)

Posted: 10-03-2004 18:21
by -plær-
Messy wrote: Plær = 1338 :)

heh, cheers :)