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Posted: 06-06-2004 10:57
by [1234]Jr
Shitknot and Corn are bollox.. im sure everyone knows how much i dislike that "music" :p

otherwise it wudda been a perfectly acceptable thread;)

Posted: 06-06-2004 11:15
by fb.shev
eugh nu-metal( korn , slipknot...) <--- nu metal is shit boy bands trying to do rock :asd: i.e. linkin park, papa roach, blink 182 et cetera, slipknot - thrash/death/HeaVy metal ... and yes it is fooking heavy!

Posted: 06-06-2004 11:54
by speedy
fb.shev wrote: eugh nu-metal( korn , slipknot...) <--- nu metal is shit boy bands trying to do rock :asd: i.e. linkin park, papa roach, blink 182 et cetera, slipknot - thrash/death/HeaVy metal ... and yes it is fooking heavy!
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Posted: 06-06-2004 12:05
by Fruitcake
Techno > j00 xD

Posted: 06-06-2004 13:07
by Messy
fb.shev wrote: slipknot - thrash/death/HeaVy metal ... and yes it is fooking heavy!


Ahahaha, well..to be specific, although I don't consider myself a genrepurist of any kind, Slipknot would be specified as Rapcore :)

Maybe melodic Crustcore or even grinding Hardcore (not Grindcore, mind you ;)), crustcore being melodic hardcore-ish music speeded up a notch, played with fury (aka less skill, although Slipknot drummer is great :)), with short bursts of anger.
Loosely derived from Discharge and the like :) maybe they even listened to their Napalm Death ;) although I'm not sure if Slipknot had formed by then, but it could definitely be an influence :)

Anyway, I'm not sure because genre and style definitions are rather hard to do, especially over multiple albums like Slipknot, but 'trash/death/heavy' metal?

Do you even know what you're talking about? Trash, Death and Heavy all are different genres, where Trash Metal is commonly considered a style inside Trash.

Trash was made as a hybrid of punk simplicity, a lyrical love for (anti-)politics and short bursting anger, creating more alarming and short tracks with one or two metal riffs with punk accelerations etc. (think Cryptic Slaughter and Dirty Rotten Imbeciles)

Death Metal usually has muffled picking and single-string play, chanting vocals, and a grim worldview.
It uses natural intuitive rhythms, and is very much rhythmic. Heavy, often slow, and dark. (not sure of an example here, think Demigod or whatever, although I think they're often more Doom Metal-ish, which is a derivative of Death Metal ;) so mehh)
edit: oh yeah, Capharnaum are typical Death Metal too, imo :o maybe Dream Theater and Meshuggah? *insert critics here including 'Messy' and 'suck'*

Heavy metal however, began in the 1960s with Black Sabbath and the like, keywords would be power chords, paranoia and morbid.
As far as I know it was made to counter the 'love and peace' of the 60s =)
Based on European Romanticism (where later the goths were based on! I think it was 16th century, and it was a dark, vampirish, erotic-ish time :) quite interesting..but irrelevant ;)). Heavy metal later became cliché as opposed to a brilliant underground countermovement, as it moved on to stadium performances and all that commercial crap, it's now back underground-ish though, which is good :) Heavy metal is also often recognized by unfolding telling of stories etc. or 'Stadium'-ish Metal (think Kiss? not sure if they're a good example, but a well known one), using commercial, well-sounding sentimental, yet exploding riffs to create an epic..balladish..thing, bah I hate it ;)

Great examples of Heavy Metal are Black Sabbath and Candlemass.

Anyway, I could understand you if you claimed Slipknot would be Trash Metal(-ish), but it's definitely not Death Metal and NOT AT ALL similar to Heavy Metal :x

As for Fruitcake: eeeck! /o\ couldn't agree tbh :c but everyone to his own taste.

edit: if you think it's 'fooking heavy', and I think you mean 'fucking heavy', then..no ;) there's definitely loads heavier stuff in terms of rhythm, as well as pure chaos, loudness and climax.

Posted: 06-06-2004 15:50
by Cenotaph
its Thrash Metal, thought some might consider it trash :D

and eugh at labelling bands...
for me, there are only two kinds of music, Good and Bad. :)

and yes, i can accept SLipknot's self-titled album to be RapCore, but IOWA is nothing close to that in my opinion.

And putting Slipknot in the same pocket as Korn is an huge mistake. Their music is not even similar. :eek: Ok, Jr? ;)

Posted: 06-06-2004 15:58
by Messy
Yes, following your 'kinds of music', I could easily fit both Slipknot and Korn in the same category ;)

btw, n1 @ Download festival :D some shitty bands like Sum41 and crap (wtf?)..but there's slayer, and dillinger escape plan \o/ hurray

Posted: 06-06-2004 15:59
by DavidM
Catalyst88 wrote: eugh metallica


dito

Posted: 06-06-2004 20:18
by Cenotaph
Messy wrote: following your 'kinds of music', I could easily fit both Slipknot and Korn in the same category ;)


Slipknot is good
Korn is bad

kthx...

:P

every1's is entitled to their opinion thats y democracy rox0r :S

Posted: 06-06-2004 21:37
by Messy
lol yup :)

ps: I like only *some* of Slipknot's tracks ¬_¬ generally..don't like em.

I'm glad we all agree Korn sucks though :p

Posted: 06-06-2004 23:00
by BlackFlame
Korn rule

Posted: 07-06-2004 00:19
by Cenotaph
mwahahah :lol:

Posted: 07-06-2004 07:27
by BL44T
slipknot sucks
korn sucks
[...] sucks etc
dreadlock pussy owns

Posted: 07-06-2004 11:19
by f1end
eugh... rock :/

Posted: 07-06-2004 11:20
by f1end
Fruitcake wrote: Techno > j00 xD


Trance>Techno>j00