3rd Jump Pass

Post by **DavidM** » 27-07-2004 18:43

that would just kill other things

philo be quiet. there is no advantage in teaching noobs lame crap

fro · Post by **fro** » 27-07-2004 18:45

PHiLø wrote: yes davidM great way of helping newbs by making it harder 2 learn basic skills :p keep up the ... something work

yes, cos whoring the same move over and over again is something that we'd like to promote

basic skills are such as boosting, volleying, positioning.. being able to whore a move isnt

GoldenGun · Post by **GoldenGun** » 27-07-2004 19:08

ye, get some newbies and try to play with them a 5on5 on Cube or whatever , they have no plan what to do. They just can make 3rd Jump volleys o\

NightBoY · Post by **NightBoY** » 27-07-2004 20:04

ohh yeaaaaa
Lets remove boosting cause its being whored, and the the volley to. And ofcourse lets remove passing and shooting. Fuck this shit. lets remove the ball too. everyone wanna play with the ball. whored.
At the end, we will stand on the pitch and chat with eachother, cause nothing will left. But then dave going to remove chat... ohh fuck

GoldenGun · Post by **GoldenGun** » 27-07-2004 20:09

Nope.

Lougie · Post by **Lougie** » 27-07-2004 20:18

What is "whoring" anyway? Something someone is really good at? Taking a cross court alt-fire pass at the height of a perfectly timed jump over the defense and volleying it far post over the keeper is whoring?

Scotteh · Post by **Scotteh** » 27-07-2004 21:04

when doing the same move over and over and again, it is considered to be whoring a move then duh... anyways na peeps have been using this move since 1.6, don't see why it needs to be changed now

Onge · Post by **Onge** » 27-07-2004 21:06

Whoring is where you do the same move over and over and over and over...Quite often these moves are whored because they are so effective - resulting in a largely unenjoyable game for the team on the receiving end. Many "lame" moves that have been whored in the past were removed - the changes to the 3rd jump/pass combo is just the next step is just continuing this process...

NightBoY · Post by **NightBoY** » 27-07-2004 21:16

what process? killing db?

overon · Post by **overon** » 27-07-2004 21:42

Speaking of "hover infront of the net and wait for a pass", I'm a dirty stinky unwashed n00b and I want to know what kind of defense is good against players who do the "hover infront of the net and wait for a pass"? From the 10 or so games I have played, that seems to be the most often used and most effective tactic. Right now if they are in the box I try to kill them that's all I have been able to do to try to defend against this tactic. I try to play man to man with them and everytime they try to come near the box I hammer them back. But they usually manage to get back into the box and volly a pass into the goal.

Inphidel · Post by **Inphidel** » 27-07-2004 21:55

The only reason I think a move should be taken out is if there is no effective counter. like the penix was removed. this move good defense can stop. and having good defense is what separates good teams from bad teams.

just seems like everything is being done to make the defense job easier for low scoring games which can result in alot of bordom for some people. esp if you take into concideration public play. ::shrugs::

but whatever. we'll adjust i guess.

Onge · Post by **Onge** » 27-07-2004 22:17

I think getting rid of this is excellent...I've always loathed it...It involves little skill, you can aim with your back to the ball and keepers have little chance of saving them. They're cheap goals to score and although they're not impossible to defend against, the reason this move is so popular is because it is so effective. Now you need to deliver a good left mouse pass to execute this move - which involves skill. If you want to moan about that, then so be it - but the fact remains this change will be part of 2.1, like it or not.

GoldenGun · Post by **GoldenGun** » 27-07-2004 22:53

ye what he said.
Nightboy u said on Deathball.net as Comment everyone who cant do it want it away, maybe all people who can just do this wanna let it stay?

Post by **DavidM** » 27-07-2004 22:58

Overon, just stick to your map. Keep him on a distance so he cannot kick you. As soon as he enteres the zone, on him + kill!
If he ain't entering the zone but someone passes to him, hit him as possibly before he gets the ball.

Inph, onge,

this move is defendable, yes. But it's way too easy to execute for the attackers, let's add a little skill to it. It's annoying me for a half year+.
All the pseudo-good players (those who think they are any good), running to enemy pbox, jumping, hitting their bind ( ]=*=Pass Me on Third Jump, I are leet whore with cheap move=*=[ )....
it's so piss poor...

And to those who say that I can't do the move....yes, thats correct. Because I never practiced it, I didn't want to learn it, because I would look like these s23's, wallbreakers, nightboys etc who do just this and limit themselves to this move only...
And I knew it would be removed sooner or later

overon · Post by **overon** » 27-07-2004 23:03

Call me a dirty filthy unwashed n00b, but
I still don't understand what hitting a pass on the 3rd jump results in something different than hitting on the 1st, 2nd, and 4th jump.

I guess I still don't understand and I read the Q&A on the deathball news page.

Help me out.