911 In Plane Site

BunnyS · Post by **BunnyS** » 22-06-2006 20:11

Well Apphex that disputes one point raised by the film, there is and always will be a loads of other things to consider. So even if you're right about everything you have just said, there is still other things that don't add up.

Like I said before I'm not 100% for either "side" because with anything you have to at least consider all points of view and all possibilities, before coming to your own view (fairly)....to me it seems some people (for both sides) have jumped in and have just assumed what they wish to be the truth as the truth.

Post by **DavidM** » 22-06-2006 20:43

the problem is that those who are blamed do not deny it or properly defend themselves, which is suspicious too.
they just turn it down (like regimes always do when they dislike something)

Cenotaph · Post by **Cenotaph** » 22-06-2006 21:06

DavidM wrote: this is EXACTLY what bush (etc) want you to believe, and thats what they keep telling without any proper backing up.

Yeh, and there are aliens in Area 51...

Look David, I will be honest, i didn't watch the movie, but reading what you described i already know some of these theories from websites, and i've actually bothered to read some of them.

There's a common thing about these theories: neither reach any conclusion, they just want to prove that 9/11 was somehow manipulated by the Bush administration, but doesn't that raise a lot more questions?

Why did Al Qaeda assumed the attacks then? Are they in league with the americans? Why? Why do they keep fighting each other then?

The people that died in the plane that crashed at the Pentagon, they didn't exist? Why would the americans send a missile against the Pentagon anyway? The point would be pretty much proven just by the attack on the WTC...

As i said, i didn't saw the movie, but what is so factual that can't be proven wrong in it? Are the producers of the movie unable to manipulate or create facts, just like you seem to be sure the Bush Administration does? The truth is in that movie what you get is one side of the story, an obviously biased side of the story, it isn't any different then what you consider to be Bush's bullshit. Haven't you learned anything from the "Da Vinci Code", for instance?

It might have some point, then again it might not, but one thing is for sure, people need to have a critical reading of the information that is given to them.

And that is all I'm asking for.

snackbar · Post by **snackbar** » 22-06-2006 21:13

why not watch it, won't hurt.

Cenotaph · Post by **Cenotaph** » 22-06-2006 21:18

I wouldn't mind watching it, just i won't rush into it, cause is not a subject that interests me personally.

what's done is done, 9/11 was a terrible thing and its really not that useful to discuss it in this way. The only point of doing movies like this is to try and further damage the already very hurt Bush administration OOOOOOOOOOR to make easy money (ppl always love a good scandal) OOOOOOOOOOOR both, so...

or can you read anything useful out of it?

snackbar · Post by **snackbar** » 22-06-2006 21:57

I don't believe either side 100% on the matter. I just like to have an opposing view to make me think about it.

Post by **DavidM** » 22-06-2006 22:00

its not about trying to make up some hoaxes.
its just people noticing some little things that dont seem right, and then they follow that string.

you totally exagerate.

meep98324 · Post by **meep98324** » 22-06-2006 22:03

I've already seen a video of two planes crashing into the world trade center, I saw the smoke that lingered around ground zero for days, that's all I need to see. The towers were not brought down by bombs, and there are communications showing that it was a plane that hit the pentagon. Unless snackbar built a missile and sent it in from Canada, there's no place close enough to the U.S. where a missile could be launched from that caused that little damage to the pentagon.

The concept of a grand conspiracy in this case is so stupid that it doesn't even need to be defended. That would be like us Jews having to defend the fact that there was a Holocaust during World War II to the Iranians who are denying.

Post by **DavidM** » 22-06-2006 22:19

you sound so naive!

BunnyS · Post by **BunnyS** » 22-06-2006 22:34

Correct me if I am wrong but it seems you are happy to take things at face value ?

and it also seems that becuase you view an opposing view as ridiclous, you will more often then not go with the marojority point of view ?

I mean, didn't everyone laugh when someone said the earth was round ?

(Aristotle and also Pythagoras I believe). No one here, from what I can see has taken this video to be 100% gospel , merely open to the idea that there could be other possible answers.

Also (lol) as I am writting this there is a news report on, saying USA intelligence have offically stated there were plans for aviation terror attacks on Canary Wharf (tallest buliding in London). Just makes me wonder.

edit : @meep

slimshady · Post by **slimshady** » 22-06-2006 23:39

meep98324 wrote: I've already seen a video of two planes crashing into the world trade center, I saw the smoke that lingered around ground zero for days, that's all I need to see. The towers were not brought down by bombs, and there are communications showing that it was a plane that hit the pentagon. Unless snackbar built a missile and sent it in from Canada, there's no place close enough to the U.S. where a missile could be launched from that caused that little damage to the pentagon.

The concept of a grand conspiracy in this case is so stupid that it doesn't even need to be defended. That would be like us Jews having to defend the fact that there was a Holocaust during World War II to the Iranians who are denying.

sorry meep but i have to agree with DavidM, this is SO naive ..

Cenotaph · Post by **Cenotaph** » 22-06-2006 23:46

Stating that its OBVIOUS that the WTC was blown up by bombs and that the plane had bombs attached to them can be classified as naive as well, no?

slimshady · Post by **slimshady** » 22-06-2006 23:53

quite naive

Post by **DavidM** » 23-06-2006 00:29

ceno, you have refused to watch anything, so dont comment on it until then. this is very silly, really. you just try to defend the public opinion, made my the manipulated US-news stations. they want you to blindly believe what they say without even asking questions.

btw, also interesting:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=789Cs7po8fk

snackbar · Post by **snackbar** » 23-06-2006 01:11

hah, i like that how they note the 9/11 commission spent $15 million on that, yet $65 million went towards Clinton's whole fiasco. Pretty twisted if that really shows where the u.s invests its interests.
I dunno if thats true or not, i just find that an interesting observation.