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Posted: 25-11-2003 19:49
by BloodyLoony
Yeah and the one reason why it's dying without ever ending up dead is people hang on to the general concept they like of Speed Ball or whatever, hoping one day the game will be great.
Posted: 25-11-2003 20:13
by Messy
Those who were doomed to die always live longer..
or summit, right? O_o
Posted: 25-11-2003 21:57
by jet2lag
sounds good messy but my english is ... ehem

Posted: 25-11-2003 22:33
by Fallen
This won't help? Why? See if you mark one guy, and another goes into the pbox. If you use your method 60*2/2, you will have only 60 dmg on the attacker.
The attacker will just tell everyone to rush, you can't die easily, creates more people in the pbox for more spam.
One idea I would like to add is maybe an addition to health taken off for attackers on the enemy side. May it be like 15 health damage for each hit. I'm sure the health will go up and somewhat lower rate, but you shouldn't die quickly with this idea.
Posted: 26-11-2003 00:35
by theberkin8or
or just lower the charge sound....
Posted: 26-11-2003 02:48
by Fallen_Bullet
was tried remember, then nobody can hear the sound, even the keeper!
Posted: 26-11-2003 11:20
by Stulovesyou
Solution to p-box camping.
Learn to defend properly.
Posted: 26-11-2003 12:07
by DiStUrbeD
2 things
1. wont work. pbox camping is all about shake shot, not gib...gib is just a plus
2. only way you can get rid of pbox camping is to reduce the catch radius of all people in it, other than the keeper. pbox camping is all about shake shot, or int/deflect. Not gib.
Posted: 26-11-2003 13:05
by f1end
Messy...nice formula...but what about...
D = 120x/y
D=Damage done in a single hit
x=No. of attackers in p-box
y=No. of Defenders in p-box
Therefore it only makes a difference if the d's outnumber the o's
Posted: 26-11-2003 15:26
by priior
what davidm tried to say is
there is no pbox camping PROBLEM.
not there is no PBOX CAMPING.
from the latest games ive seen.. o players seem to have adapted to pbox camping... (in NA games at least)
Posted: 26-11-2003 18:33
by Inphidel
as i can see pbox camping is only really a problem on public servers and its not even a problem. it can only have harsh effects if a good team is playing a bad team and goes with lame tactics.
but i don't see any really close games going on. its still average of 10 goals. in 30 mins of play. thats pretty good i think.
Posted: 26-11-2003 20:16
by fro
priior wrote:
what davidm tried to say is
there is no pbox camping PROBLEM.
not there is no PBOX CAMPING.
from the latest games ive seen.. o players seem to have adapted to pbox camping... (in NA games at least)
na games are one thing..

Posted: 26-11-2003 20:31
by priior
so if the d pbox camps and the o just passes the ball to each.. what happens?
the d stays in pbox?
ugh... do games really get played that way?
Posted: 26-11-2003 20:39
by -plær-
priior wrote:
ugh... do games really get played that way?
Welcome to the fun world of dbl
Posted: 26-11-2003 22:17
by Messy
They shudnt O_o
It's far more effective to continuously pressure and just use one or two defenders to do that final perfectly coordinated blow that will render the attack useless (shake, kill, intercept, whatever).
Boxing out is good =\ A proper attack can just wait untill the enemy makes a cock-up and then shoot the ball nicely top corner, or quickly volley it in with a cross-volley (lmb/rmb, whatever)
Pbox camping effectiveness is way overrated -.-