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i think it looks fun, i like how twig implements 45 degree angles in his maps making for interesting bounces and sets.

Try something like that for a map

It's got a simple geometry

It's look some pro sport layout

The layout can also be interesting for small map (vo) or large map (league game)



Thinking about it, I've already seen that... It's the only map played in NA in league and pug.

All that to say we need some new designs, and we cant decide by seeing the overall map if it's gonna work. We must play in them to be sure they are ok and all. Saying a map design is bad when you see the general layout of it is not a good way to get differents maps for a mod.

DavidM wrote: looks boring to me, brings nothing seriously new

and a square with straight walls is fun?

I didn't plan on making a large or meduim size map with this layout. Plus an official map coming from DavidM would get a lot more attention than from me. I suggested the layout to DavidM for a slight change. He's said many times on these forums that Cube style maps work best and suggested making maps with slight changes to the cube layout. I thought the layout fit with his ideas, thus the suggestion.

Well, to see how the layout plays on a small map, and to get a better idea if it would be interesting a meduim or large size map check out DB-Off Center Left: http://www.pcgamemods.com/3233/

DB-Off Center Right will be slightly longer with goals in the opposite corners.

I don't know how to read DavidM's comment. The wording and speed of his comment, to me, could be read in different ways. I sometimes fail to understand him. Plus, he seem to be short lately. I'll leave him a lone. I was only trying to be helpful.

As for DB-Back, the map seems fine. It's been a long time since I played a similar map and it's goals were much further apart. If you make this an official map, please make a new wall texture. Cube is a good map but I don't want to see the same textures in three, four or more maps. I think Hole and Back would be more interesting if they also had different graphics in addition to gameplay. Just my opinion. I like your efforts on making new maps.

DB Back isn't a new idea... there were many same ideas before, althought there was some kind of a Wall on the back of the goals, so there was a possibility of Volleying the ball somehow

This DB-Off Center Right (or Left? ) DOesnt contain Seriusly NEW stuffs... DavidM is right at this Point.... BUT WHO THE HELL WANTS SERIUSLY NEW STUFFS?! If the Layout is Not Cube-d again, it would be fun to play... just a few days before I played on a map that was the same as Cube, but Its corners were taken out, so the end looked like this: \____/ And it was fun to play... it wasnt seriusly new... and althought the layout wasnt the best of it... but it was still fun to play... Try giving Not Cube Cloned Maps a Chance DavidM

thats my point
i dont want a slightly edited cube (offcenter)
db back is something that play totally different but is still playable
thats the challenge, to get good and different gameplay

i dont care about some 45° angle here and there, that doesn't really do it

neither does a backwards net

Plus, he seem to be short lately. I'll leave him a lone.

OMG TWIG, what kind of relationship you got with davidm?

None, just going by his resent posts, he seems to be in a bad mood. I don't think he likes me anyway.

i wup j00

I wub j00 all.

Sinterklaas kapoentje, gooi wat in m'n schoentje.

Yeh I wub you all too, I just wanted to throw in some bad english in first..you know, like the rest

I like Off Center. It's a good twist.

If *map idea* = *not davidm's* [action=insult_it]*use always*