soccer>* thx tbh i would like them to get rid of the armor all together maybe make a Dune like sheild around you or some ghey when you get hit to explain not dying (makes more sense than amor anyway)
alien swarm > deathball i think, the point of all the stages were progression if you entered your mod in all stages and as far as i can see the only thing deathball introduced were some new maps (crap=/) and the models (again crap). Not taking anything away from deathball because i play it and love it but i dont think its progressed enough to win again. I think alienswarm will take this one.