DavidM answer 1 question pls

f1end · Post by **f1end** » 21-03-2003 12:10

Me 2

Surge · Post by **Surge** » 21-03-2003 22:56

Large Potato wrote: I'm sorry surge, but i dont see why i should only have 0.4 seconds to react to one of your gimp volleys from almost the halfway line, it just doesnt plain make any sense that they are so much more powerful than a normal shot

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you should be shot in the face my friend.

the human anatomy has a build in approx. .2 second delay on everything no matter what your reflexes, the fastest reflex time thats "common" is posessed by goaltenders in comes like hockey and soccer and is usually about .16-.18 miliseconds. Along with an average of about 60-100 ping thats .3 second delay and assuming the ball is going anywhere but DIRECTLY AT YOU and you dont just *guess* and dodge then yes, you are fucked in any shot/volley under .4 seconds.

edit: also in regards to your other post, i don't play n00b pub games much anymore because of 4 heros jumping for a volley even tho its quite obvious that someone else has it and is better at volleying than them. I'm thinking in relation to the league here, you slow down vollies then theres no point doing them. I like volleying, many people do.. I do it cause regular shooting is boring, vollies go faster, and its a worry free way of putting the wall against the mesh with less chance of the keep grabbing it.

Large Potato · Post by **Large Potato** » 22-03-2003 01:35

You just dont get it, surge, volleys will still be a lot more powerful than normal shots. The change i am suggesting is making a 0.5 second volley take a mere 0.05 seconds longer, that is a subtle change at best.

Of course David M will have to test the volley power to see that it only increases the time that small amount. Its entirely likely that 1850 power will be the final volley power that will get put into 1.7

The maths i used to work out those speed and times is crude at best.

Here's what it would work out to if used 100 volley power, when for 2000 power its 44 m/s over a distance of 22 metres

2.2 m/s, 10 seconds

Which is complete nonsense as the ball would bounce several times and stop even before making the goals if it was going at that speed.

Post by **DavidM** » 22-03-2003 02:15

I'm affraid it would be piss boring if you are only able to score from 10 meters away because all shots are too slow

Surge · Post by **Surge** » 22-03-2003 05:37

all you have to do is put a delay on self vollies within 1 second or sumthin to prevent the n00b cannon. If people get pissed cause they cant use close net side vollies anymore tell them to right click and body volley it in. A regular shot and a volley are on an equal plain as is. One has a lot more accuracy than the other and thats the differnence. A n00b cannon is about the only easy to do volley now because of the huge hammer radius in 1.6

RaGe*NL* · Post by RaGe*NL* » 22-03-2003 09:32

LET THA NooB Cannon stay. Its a great way to practise on some volley skills and u make nice goals with it and personally (i keep alot) i dont think they are harder to keep then normal shots because u can see where the person is aiming at now

Surge · Post by **Surge** » 22-03-2003 19:33

apparently they dont know the slant cannon then... you can veryy easily aim the n00b cannon at any spot at the net, most people just dont cause they're lame

Post by **DavidM** » 22-03-2003 19:43

its a bug, nothing else
as i said, the self volley delay will be put back in

Surge · Post by **Surge** » 22-03-2003 19:48

will the delay only affect shots under a certain power and will it also affect body volley?

Lemmeloose2000 · Post by **Lemmeloose2000** » 25-03-2003 05:04

On my 56k you can't nOOb cannon because of the approx 250 lag. you end up just catching the ball again. Are there gonna be any changes made just for the 56k users so they arn't totally behind?

Surge · Post by **Surge** » 25-03-2003 05:19

ya, its called broadband... get it