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Posted: 22-06-2006 22:04
by meep98324
if he had scored, could the australians have contested the game?

Posted: 22-06-2006 22:24
by Rincewind SW
They would've had to :) It would be interesting...

Posted: 22-06-2006 22:39
by BunnyS
Well done Ghana and Australia :) Glad they both got through. Also nice to see Brazil scoring some goals, but I still think Ronaldo is on poor form. Sure he scored this match, but seems he might be on his way to becoming a shadow of the player he used to be. Hopefully I am wrong :)

Posted: 22-06-2006 22:46
by Cenotaph
One more goal and he becomes the best World Cup goalscorer ever. I'd like to see that. ;)

Posted: 22-06-2006 23:23
by slimshady
Brazil are getting better... good good

But their defence still .. SUCKS ! /o\

Posted: 23-06-2006 21:59
by slimshady
Switzerland's second goal was clearly an offside ..

anyway ! what are your expectations for tomorrow's games?

Posted: 23-06-2006 22:18
by Cenotaph
Considering what happened in 2002, and in the game against France, they had it coming if he was indeed offside :P

still have to watch the goal

it wouldnt matter anyway, really

Posted: 23-06-2006 22:57
by The_One
It wasn't offside. It came off a South Korean player.

Posted: 23-06-2006 23:03
by slimshady
so ? at the moment when the Switzerland player made the pass the other player was in an offside position .. doesnt that count as an offside?

Posted: 23-06-2006 23:19
by The_One
Nope. :)

Point 1: When the ball was played by Margairaz, Frei was onside.

Point 2: The pass was to Cabanas not Frei.

Which leads to...

Point 3: You cannot be offside unless you are in active play. This is the stupid one and arguable either way. Blame FIFA for that. I'd say at the time of the pass it wasn't an advantage to be where he was, your opinion may differ.

Point 4: You cannot be offside if the pass was from an opposing player. The 'pass' was from a South Korean player (Didn't note the name, sorry) who accidentally put Frei in on goal while attempting to block the pass to Cabanas.

Seems quite clear to me. Plus even if the goal was not awarded Switzerland were still 1-0 up. Even if South Korea had scored they'd still be out.

Posted: 24-06-2006 03:24
by Cenotaph
well, still havent watched it, but if he was onside when the last swiss player touched the ball, it cant be an offside for sure. :o

its certainly ironic to see the koreans mad at a ref's decision.

yet another priceless little thing.

Posted: 24-06-2006 03:57
by The_One
It's quite hard to catch as Frei and the defender are moving in opposite directions, plus the referee's assistant's (stupid name. what was wrong with linesman?) view is blocked by the other players. I have no doubt that he didn't actually flag for Margairaz's pass but for when the Korean defender put Frei through. I don't know what the big deal over this particular decision is. It was a very close call and could be given either way in any match.

Posted: 24-06-2006 09:25
by slimshady
no there's no big deal about it .. it just that in the replay it seemed to me it was an offside, and i personally think that with 20 minutes left Korea would have been capable of completely changing the score, but if it's not an offside as u explained then ok..
anyway i'm happy with Switzerland qualifying to the next round :D i like how the play , still it will be a difficult game for them against Ukraine..

Posted: 24-06-2006 17:58
by slimshady
Germany is impressive

and that wasn't a penalty

Posted: 24-06-2006 18:15
by The_One
What are you on mate? It was a cast iron penalty. Sweden were woeful though. Germany should have scored more and their defence still looks dodgy. They've yet to be tested (maybe they won't be. Who knows?).

Anyone else think Oliver Kahn wants Germany to lose as long as Lehmann is in the side?