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Posted: 06-06-2006 20:05
by Mighty Midget
Paco De Lucia. Makes the heavy metal dudes sound like they have arthritis.

Posted: 07-06-2006 19:37
by meep98324
The United States of America - American Metaphysical Circus

This is such an incredible album, it completely blows my mind.

Posted: 07-06-2006 21:50
by bloodeh
Nada Surf - Blankest Year

Posted: 08-06-2006 01:01
by Messy
In between floating away listening to Kind of Blue I found this video reading about musical modes on wikipedia:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 90&pl=true

It's pretty cool :)
<3 Yngwie

Posted: 08-06-2006 11:32
by BunnyS
Is that the same guy who played with the orchestra in the other video of various guitarists ? He is good either way :D

and Miles Davis <3

p.s now playing Eric Clapton - The Core

Posted: 08-06-2006 11:52
by Messy
Yes, he is :D
<3 Yngwie.

Now playing Rosetta Stoned (by Tool).

Posted: 08-06-2006 11:53
by xiller8r
Currently listening to the sound of traffic going by my office window, and the sound of me sneezing constantly.

Posted: 08-06-2006 12:14
by BunnyS
Missy Elliot - The Rain

and also ... I know how you feel , I have been sneezing all morning !

Posted: 08-06-2006 13:36
by DavidM
Messy wrote: In between floating away listening to Kind of Blue I found this video reading about musical modes on wikipedia:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 90&pl=true

It's pretty cool :)
<3 Yngwie


phrygian :o
this pre-medieval stuff :D
the whole composition sounds a lot like bach though.
but why distort it? :(

Posted: 08-06-2006 15:37
by Messy
Because it's impossible to shred (extensive tapping, sweep-picking and whatnot) on a clean guitar.

Posted: 08-06-2006 15:39
by Mighty Midget
Messy, you might want to lend an ear to Stanley Jordan... clean sound tapping.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QaWUjJk ... y%20jordan

Posted: 08-06-2006 15:56
by Messy
Oh I know him (and he's quite lovely :)), and there are even some videos I found of Yngwie Malmsteen doing shred-esque playing on an accoustic (!).

But it's at least twice as hard and the result seems less intriguing, besides the fact that a lot of things probably won't work at all :o
It's a bit like trying to get natural (or even pinch ;x) harmonics on an accoustic guitar.

Try holding your finger just on a string over the 12th fret of an accoustic guitar and plucking it (preferably releasing your fretting hand just after for maximum ringing), you'll hear a harmonic.
Now on an accoustic it's bloody hard getting more natural harmonics like this one out (at, say, the 7th fret (or 19th), 5th fret (or the 24th), the 4th fret, and somewhere around the 3rd and 2nd frets - where there are about 5 different natural harmonic notes close to eachother); however, pick up an electric guitar (or even bass :x) and you'll notice it'll become increasingly better audible (is that proper english? :D) once you turn up the distortion (and possibly the tone knob).

The same goes for things like pinch harmonics but also for techniques like really quick tapping or sweep-picking (and what other techniques are normal or abnormal in shredding nowadays..I really don't know) where you just won't (easily) get a lot of sound on a clean (let alone an unamplified) guitar sound.

Posted: 08-06-2006 16:09
by Mighty Midget
Messy, Messy, Messy...;) I played guitar for about 27 years, both electric and acoustic. 12 strings and 6. :D There's a lot you can do acoustically if the guitar is nicely built and the strings are good. Sure, it's easier on an electric guitar, but it's faaaar from impossible on an acoustic one. I think Eric Clapton has a tune that has 'acoustic' harmonics.

Posted: 08-06-2006 16:34
by Messy
I didn't say it was impossible :D

Man, I thought pinch harmonics etc. were impossible on bass until I heard Billy Sheehan :)

Nothing is truly impossible :>
Distortion and amplification just make it easier ;)

Posted: 08-06-2006 16:55
by Mighty Midget
Now, THAT is true :D :p

Damn you Messy. Now, can you please post an ourageous claim, so that we can go back to our trenches? :D

BTW 'Far from impossible' = can easily (?) be done.