best def award

RaGe|DB · Post by **RaGe|DB** » 27-02-2004 12:42

yes it does, the entertaining award

f1end · Post by **f1end** » 27-02-2004 13:11

DavidM...can't u just spectate EVERY single game of deathball played...and make the decision yourself, don't need to code it then...O_o

Post by **DavidM** » 27-02-2004 15:25

it can detect a bounce, a 360° spin whatever

so how do you detect if the bounce was good? its not such an exact thing
in the end everybody will just bounce every ball, and run around spinning like hell
i see no serious potential in this

Onge · Post by **Onge** » 08-03-2004 14:14

How about -3pts for an own goal...Currently you lose nothing for it...

Post by **DavidM** » 08-03-2004 14:29

rather not
its usually a bad accident, and most times it cannot be blamed on the owngoaler, its when you pass back to the keeper and that one fucks up
you can hardly blame a defender for it

and people who owngoal on purpose dont care about their awards anyway

so you still want -3 for owngoal, onge?

Onge · Post by **Onge** » 08-03-2004 14:34

I think some penalty for an og is appropriate, but as you aren't gonna do it, it matters not... :p

Post by **DavidM** » 08-03-2004 14:38

i scored some self goals in def, but it never was my fault, so i dont see a reason for that

Catalyst88 · Post by **Catalyst88** » 08-03-2004 16:17

I think you need to reward keepers somehow, since you removed the best keeper award...

Post by **DavidM** » 08-03-2004 16:31

keeper award was dumb, doesnt show the best keeper, rather points out the keeper who had more work.

Onge · Post by **Onge** » 08-03-2004 16:43

Hmmmm...I don't see the harm in leaving Best Keeper award in...After all, keeping is a thankless task anyway...Having an award, no matter how flawed, is surely better than no award at all?

And as there is room for more awards, why not keep the Most Scorer, Most Assists etc rewards? OK, the new system will show who is Best Attacker but it is still nice to see at a glance who got the most goals or whatever...F1 is too hard to read (and you can't see them during replays, which is when you are most likely to have a look)...

Morning*Star · Post by **Morning*Star** » 08-03-2004 16:49

DavidM wrote: rather not
its usually a bad accident, and most times it cannot be blamed on the owngoaler, its when you pass back to the keeper and that one fucks up
you can hardly blame a defender for it

and people who owngoal on purpose dont care about their awards anyway

so you still want -3 for owngoal, onge?

the same could be said for passes and missed chances, someone doesnt catch a pass, the passer gets a bad pass, if it happens to go to the keeper i think it counts as a missed chance

stats hardly reflect how well people play

Post by **DavidM** » 08-03-2004 17:55

not being able to see f1 during replays is a bug and will be fixed.
so you can see the details

ya morningstar, thats right, hate that too, but what do you wanna do against it? we just try to get as close to the reality as possible with these stats, only a human would be able to see whose fault it was etc.

Post by **DavidM** » 16-03-2004 21:40

updated the first post, totally rewritten, it contains all award info (and its being recoded)

f1end · Post by **f1end** » 18-03-2004 10:52

I still think it would be good to have the "best scorer" and "best assist"...or at least just top scorer...people do care about who scored the most goals.

Post by **DavidM** » 18-03-2004 11:55

then look at f1 smartey man