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InSaNe` · Post by **InSaNe`** » 06-05-2004 00:34

^^Wise words by Sc00ter $\o/$

If you think VO pubs require no team work you're pretty damn right; you can just spam away with your hammer and score some how...

Reg, scrim or league match require more team work than anything. If you don't pass or work together you're basically screwed badly.

Heres an idea: Leave SmallCube and after its been played once disable it for another 3 maps or so, and put in around 5 maps that you can play reg in (not the fps eating, huge download maps) that you'll have fun with o_O

Not a demand, just a suggestion.

Scotteh · Post by **Scotteh** » 06-05-2004 01:35

Heres an idea: Leave SmallCube and after its been played once disable it for another 3 maps or so, and put in around 5 maps that you can play reg in (not the fps eating, huge download maps) that you'll have fun with o_O

^good idea

CorDawg · Post by **CorDawg** » 06-05-2004 02:15

twig had that on his mapvote, but i dont think its available on ut2vote... maybe, great idea tho, and remove the restart vote option

InSaNe` · Post by **InSaNe`** » 06-05-2004 03:57

Twig DID have that in his mapvote but he also had NO regular maps to play on what-so-ever.

I don't blame him either, most people like fast paced action but then again, it's killin the community and the chance for n00bs to learn the real game.

Fooman · Post by **Fooman** » 06-05-2004 16:39

O_o Yall havn't given up yet?

CorDawg · Post by **CorDawg** » 06-05-2004 19:17

quitter^^

InSaNe` · Post by **InSaNe`** » 07-05-2004 01:54

Of course not..

DeathBall has so much potential and I'm sure many people can agree with me..

We just need better communities (faggots like the bann0rs really make it a bad experience)

Imaginos · Post by **Imaginos** » 07-05-2004 02:12

CorDawg wrote: twig had that on his mapvote, but i dont think its available on ut2vote... maybe, great idea tho, and remove the restart vote option

Absolutely yes, UT2Vote will do that. And restarting won't get you the map if it's on restriction.

How about a nice lineup to test this thought..
What maps should I leave in rotation?

CorDawg · Post by **CorDawg** » 07-05-2004 02:34

everything in rotation, but after a map is played, make it so you cant paly that map again untill 6 maps later. so like smallcube is played, people cant play it again until 6 other maps are played then smallcube becomes available to vote again, something liek that

Inphidel · Post by **Inphidel** » 07-05-2004 03:24

imagnos, you ever think of trying to implement into ut2vote the ability to make maps change mods. like everytime someone votes for smallcube its a vote for vo mode.. and lowcube is a vote for reg also. thus creating it so if everyone votes for lowcube in vo mode, they don't all hafta vote for vo first, and then vote for the map which can be a pain, and lets face it. us americans enjoy easy access like drive through. this is ideal.

anyone with me on that?

Twigstir · Post by **Twigstir** » 07-05-2004 04:06

InSaNe` wrote: Twig DID have that in his mapvote but he also had NO regular maps to play on what-so-ever.

That is a totaly false statement. I always had larger maps on the server but they were rarely played. I put in the repeat limit because nobody was trying new maps. SC/SE all the time ,with a number of players bashing others who voted for anything else is why I installed the repeat limit. They still played VO 99% of the time, just on more maps.

The NA always had and still has, servers for normal " shooting" deathball. They are empty waiting to be used, as they have been for over a year.

Why people insist that eliminating the existance of one server playing VO is going to equal people playing "shooting" deathball is beyound rational thinking. People see a full VO server and think - a full VO server minus VO, equals a full shooting server. Wrong, it doesn't work like that. It's stupid to think the players playing VO deathball will simply switch to "shooting" deathball by eliminating VO.

If you want more people playing "shooting" deathball, then it's up to you to get on the empty servers and play. You have to attract those players. Empty servers are not attractive.

I spend time, many nights a week, on BuD's 2K4 deathball server. So far it always me, myself, and I. But hey, that how Twigstir's deathball server was at first. Me, myself, and I, and a couple of my maps.

InSaNe` · Post by **InSaNe`** » 07-05-2004 20:46

Really? Please name one..

After one round of SmallCube it was SmallEnclosure, then Sunsetbeta, then DeathVolley, then Zodiac, then SmallCube again.

I remember people used to play your maps constantly and when I searched for a map that was larger than smallcube; I couldn't find anything.

I'm speaking of around 1.8-1.9. I remember it clearly.

No one's saying that once you eliminate VO everyone's gonna play reg; don't know wher you got that idea from but here's the case. When you play in a VO server, there are usually 1-2 good players on the team that can score. How do they score? By not passing; n00bs that come in and that are willing to learn don't learn jack shit from watching prank shoot the ball to the ceiling and hitting it in now do they?

By simply eliminating VO, we're left with n00bs that can learn to play the game, the REAL game not just VO. You can volley whenever you want but constantly volleying doesn't show the true value of this mod. You also claim that there are servers that are open to the public to play reg on? I think not, those servers are for private usage for scrims, league matches and such. I agree with you though; we do need more reg servers to play on. Many people have tried (Dev, Foo) and came up empty. Fooman's server was going pretty good but it went down after he wanted to use the server for UD.

Most n00bs come in and go to "Custom", they see the server that is most populated and go there; usually it's a VO server. Not all, just some..

I don't mind playing VO when it's played once in a while, but it gets pretty fucking boring watching one person hog the ball for 20 minutes; don't you?

Sixty · Post by **Sixty** » 07-05-2004 20:57

Amen.

CorDawg · Post by **CorDawg** » 07-05-2004 23:09

or just get rid of vo mode, so that way when you want to play reg you can, you can play vo without the mode, but u cant play reg with it.

Twigstir · Post by **Twigstir** » 08-05-2004 01:20

It was my server and you think you know more than I do about it? November, Icedeamon, ClearNight, Midnight, Toonball ect.......... My server became VO by players choice, not mine.

My server started out empty. It got popular and ran well most of the time. At times it didn't. The repeat limit was a means to deal with a problem period.

There have ALWAYS been regular servers. The old NA server from Dev was going when I started mine. Now there are two Fo servers and two bud servers. There has been a few others. The regular servers have been empty most of the time, for well over a year now. You don't need more. You have them but don't use them.

"By simply eliminating VO, we're left with n00bs that can learn to play the game, the REAL game not just VO" Bullcrap, you'll just have more empty regular servers.

Yep, new players don't have any full regular servers to join. VO is not the problem. The problem is that regular players don't play public.

Of course it could be that the "real" deathball is VO. It has the only full servers and that is by player choice via mapvote.

Bottom line: "If you want more people playing "shooting" deathball, then it's up to you to get on the empty servers and play."

P.S. "it gets pretty ****ing boring watching one person hog the ball for 20 minutes; don't you?" It never last that long. I D-up on the person. If they are real good like Prank, they will raise to the challenge and still score. However, it will be at a much slower pace and with a lot more effort.