teh new 1337 boost-trick u just GOTTA use.

DiStUrbeD · Post by **DiStUrbeD** » 04-08-2003 23:39

It's not my fault people are a bunch of babies and would rather have it removed then to actually learn how to defend it.

DiStUrbeD · Post by **DiStUrbeD** » 04-08-2003 23:49

look, david already mentioned it earlier, but making it less powerful would be the best option.

Removing it would cause more problems, like with the anti broomstick (which in my opinion, should slow you down, instead of bringing you to a dead stop)

GraGoyle|ZBN · Post by **GraGoyle|ZBN** » 05-08-2003 00:13

Nah broomstick sux... full stop.

theberkin8or · Post by **theberkin8or** » 05-08-2003 00:54

why doesn't davidm use this philispholy for when he removed dribbling make it harder but still do able

ooo dis you didn't play b4 1.5 i do beleave there was a long time when shooting was THE way to score and it isn't boring if you get rid of pbox camping.. pbox camping is what makes shooting boring

Surge · Post by **Surge** » 05-08-2003 01:21

DavidM wrote: -Boosting ruined
-Cannot do well timed jumps
-Too friggin annoying when you miss the top for no reason (hated that in 1.3, with set jumping it felt like luck if you hit the top or not)...and with that n00b unfriendliness

does every1 remember when people bitched at me cause when DB was being changed through 1.5+ i said it ruins stuff i do...

Hi David, stop accomdating yourself if you wont do it for EVERYONE else aswell.

boosting is ruined? what are you on? all set jumping does is make it so you cant do fly-bys and god forbit you MIGHT not be able to boost all the way across the field. God forbid people might actually use sprint cause they cant vault all the way across the field anymore...

Cant time your jumps? learn to... that or just tap your jump button randomly... thats what i do, works perfectly every time.

Too friggin annoyng when you miss the top jump? what about the defender that misses his top jump and you get a wide open cherry picker goal. You don't complain then.

Stop fucking with your game and make it fun for everyone, not just yourself. We don't care that you have trouble timing jumps. We do care that you have control over what your doing though. We all know this boost-trick protection is bullshit.

The free jump only does 2 things for the game. Lets you sleep easy, and make the game more skill-less because of the ability to hover.

What set-jumping fixes is all forms of boost trick from anywhere except the EXACT boost-quad jump range. Set jump fixes the stupid hover tricks that people do for quick, skill-less vollies.

What bringing back set jumping also does is lets you make vollies more powerful again due to their difficulty to execute. It also makes it so shake might get a tweak to make shooting worth while again.

Right now, whether you believe it or not, no one that just stared playing is going to play defense, few will keep, and the majority will take up offense. Why? Its the only position thats not too easy or too hard. Its pretty well balanced right now.

I defend now and then and its easy. You sit on the edge of the Pbox and wait till they start charging or step in the lines. If you cant get to them, you tuck in behind the keeper and double keep. If your WAY out of position you just boost back. If its a 2v1 you attack the ball carrier untill he hits the lines. If he passes you tuck behind the keeper and double keep.

Keeping on the other hand is just frustrating unless you have a good defender which due to ack of intrest are hard to find. Even then its pretty easy because of the .52 hammer delay. To get a goal from absolutly ANYWHERE and i mean ANYWHERE under .52 seconds it has to be a head on shot from the top of the crease or on the inside corner from the side. With that shake, the keeper hammer delay, and other variables (deflect, the fact there prolly a defender there and the unlikely hood of getting a good shot off) its fcking hard as shit to score, but it is possible. Thats why people play offense, BUT its also why people develope cheap tactics.

Now, explain to me again how free-jumping helps DB...

DiStUrbeD · Post by **DiStUrbeD** » 05-08-2003 01:24

theberkin8or wrote: ooo dis you didn't play b4 1.5 i do beleave there was a long time when shooting was THE way to score and it isn't boring if you get rid of pbox camping.. pbox camping is what makes shooting boring

wtf you talking about, i played in 1.4b

Surge · Post by **Surge** » 05-08-2003 01:51

pbox camping, when done right, doesnt just prevent shooting, it makes it 100% impossible.

With defect it just makes it frustrating.

YoYo789 · Post by **YoYo789** » 05-08-2003 02:18

tbh, everything surge said this time is correct.

Fruitcake · Post by **Fruitcake** » 05-08-2003 03:35

a well written argument surge...i agree that set jumping should be implemented into db again

gg david m

YoYo789 · Post by **YoYo789** » 05-08-2003 09:17

and pls do not make it optional, or our server will never have it on

f1end · Post by **f1end** » 05-08-2003 09:27

Options suck...remaove sprint as standard i say...and YEY to set-jumps...I always thought it strange that they were removed tbh...it would make more sense.

YoYo789 · Post by **YoYo789** » 05-08-2003 10:21

oh yes, pls pls pls remove sprint from db altogether... that would make me so happy. but maybe bad for the game? nah!

Post by **DavidM** » 05-08-2003 10:23

maybe it could be fixed by lowering the volleypower:
the higher you are, the lower the power

the keeper startpoint could be used to check how high it is

[V3]Dave · Post by **[V3]Dave** » 05-08-2003 10:30

How bout tha V play:) all 5 players going down tha field blocking people away while 1 guy carrys da ball. We did this in 4 real matches and worked well<===== is dat lame and cheap too?

NightSpirit|ZBN · Post by **NightSpirit|ZBN** » 05-08-2003 10:31

DavidM wrote: maybe it could be fixed by lowering the volleypower:
the higher you are, the lower the power

the keeper startpoint could be used to check how high it is

Sounds good to me ... but then I have never been a fan of volleys