Bush is Re-elected as Kerry Concedes
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Re: Bush is Re-elected as Kerry Concedes
Fooman wrote: God Bless America.
America sure could use a divine blessing now, coz the last fours years have been disastrous.
you people all need to get your heads out of your asses that don't live in america.  the only thing that has ended negatively has been the war in iraq.  at that, there has been low loss of life (the loss of life in over a year is comparable to under an hour in parts of WW2), and an overly slow pace of the war.  
past that, the US economy is at the same level it was when bubba clinton was president, which is quite amazing considering the recession that had begun to take shape before bush took office.
i don't personally like either candidate all that much, but for all of kerry's "plans" he had not plan to execute them, and nothing past saying what he would've done in bush's spot. there is no way to say what would have been done, as being the president of the US is completely different from imagining it, which mr. kerry didn't seem to understand all that well.
			
			
									
						
										
						past that, the US economy is at the same level it was when bubba clinton was president, which is quite amazing considering the recession that had begun to take shape before bush took office.
i don't personally like either candidate all that much, but for all of kerry's "plans" he had not plan to execute them, and nothing past saying what he would've done in bush's spot. there is no way to say what would have been done, as being the president of the US is completely different from imagining it, which mr. kerry didn't seem to understand all that well.
LOL, you are comparing the war in iraq to WWII? NICE ONE!
Let me back that up:
WWII was a WORLD WAR, kind of larger scaled than 1 country.
People didn't care as much for human lives as they do now (especially hitler).
People who get caught don't get send to camps where the most likely die anyway.
WWII was based on eliminating a whole race, while this was just a 'simple' liberation.
One of the things in common is that both shouldn't have happened.
Oh, and as for Bush, It's a well known fact that he is STUPID.
			
			
													Let me back that up:
WWII was a WORLD WAR, kind of larger scaled than 1 country.
People didn't care as much for human lives as they do now (especially hitler).
People who get caught don't get send to camps where the most likely die anyway.
WWII was based on eliminating a whole race, while this was just a 'simple' liberation.
One of the things in common is that both shouldn't have happened.
Oh, and as for Bush, It's a well known fact that he is STUPID.
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						i'm comparing the death rates in the two war's cuz all i hear is the "large amount of deaths", not the war themselves.
 
as for the economy, the stock markets are at the levels that have become standard after the .com crash, which was a bad situation as is. the jobs situation has improved, with over a million and a half jobs being created, nearly negating the job loss during the recession. the current unemployment rate is 5.4%. this is the lowest rate since sept. 2001. i don't understand how with these figures people keep insisting that the economy is getting worse, when it's clearly getting better.
edit: as for bush being "stupid", the group that supposedly did an IQ test across all presidents A) Didn't exist prior to the "study" and B) didn't base the test on any studies, rather on speeches given by the presidents.
seeing as how speculation has shown that bush may suffer from dyslexia, this would explain his apparent confusion at times during his public speaks.
now if he were to actually take an IQ test, i would believe any scores
also, Bush graduated w/ a bachelor's from Yale in 68, and a master's from harvard business school in 75, so he is clearly not a stupid person as you so ignorantly label him
			
			
													as for the economy, the stock markets are at the levels that have become standard after the .com crash, which was a bad situation as is. the jobs situation has improved, with over a million and a half jobs being created, nearly negating the job loss during the recession. the current unemployment rate is 5.4%. this is the lowest rate since sept. 2001. i don't understand how with these figures people keep insisting that the economy is getting worse, when it's clearly getting better.
edit: as for bush being "stupid", the group that supposedly did an IQ test across all presidents A) Didn't exist prior to the "study" and B) didn't base the test on any studies, rather on speeches given by the presidents.
seeing as how speculation has shown that bush may suffer from dyslexia, this would explain his apparent confusion at times during his public speaks.
now if he were to actually take an IQ test, i would believe any scores
also, Bush graduated w/ a bachelor's from Yale in 68, and a master's from harvard business school in 75, so he is clearly not a stupid person as you so ignorantly label him
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						Weisso wrote:
past that, the US economy is at the same level it was when bubba clinton was president, which is quite amazing considering the recession that had begun to take shape before bush took office.
I hate to tell you but in the past 2 years the american dollar has gone downt he drain. gg within like 6 months it will be equal to the canadian dollar
Heres a simple graph for you to see the american dollar to canadian dollar
http://finance.yahoo.com/currency/conve ... amt=1&t=2y
value of dollar vs. dollar isn't the only indication of growth in economy. 
 maybe it could be that the canadian economy is growing, but at a faster rate? or would that make too much sense?
job growth is one of the major showing factors in the growth of the economy, and generally comes before any growth in the dollar.
			
			
									
						
										
						job growth is one of the major showing factors in the growth of the economy, and generally comes before any growth in the dollar.
The stock market is not the US economy. 
The unemployment rate does not count everyone.
The US needs to gain 1.6 million jobs a year to keep up with population growth
US wages are lower
higher paying jobs are declining
poverty is up
debt is up
people without healthcare are up
general living expensives are up and far outpacing people's income
And the list goes on
People are the US economy - they are getting poorer - thus the US economy is getting weaker.
			
			
									
						
										
						The unemployment rate does not count everyone.
The US needs to gain 1.6 million jobs a year to keep up with population growth
US wages are lower
higher paying jobs are declining
poverty is up
debt is up
people without healthcare are up
general living expensives are up and far outpacing people's income
And the list goes on
People are the US economy - they are getting poorer - thus the US economy is getting weaker.
ok wiesso lets see this graph for other currency
Yen
http://finance.yahoo.com/currency/conve ... amt=1&t=2y
Euro
http://finance.yahoo.com/currency/conve ... amt=1&t=2y
theres to many currencies, i dont care anymore
			
			
									
						
										
						Yen
http://finance.yahoo.com/currency/conve ... amt=1&t=2y
Euro
http://finance.yahoo.com/currency/conve ... amt=1&t=2y
theres to many currencies, i dont care anymore