How to kill Pbox Camping in 1.7

Bodom · Post by **Bodom** » 06-06-2003 21:13

Get rid of the charge up sound heard by others on shots. The only reason a person can effectively pbox camp/block you/make you shake is cause they know when you're gonna shoot from the sound. Think about it, back in 1.3 and 1.4 when there was no charge up sound, people didn't pbox camp cause it wasn't effective. Pbox camping came in with the charge up sound. I think we'll all agree pbox camping is killing DB, so why not get rid of it?

Post by **DavidM** » 06-06-2003 21:16

dude, its a bug that you dont hear the powerup sound!

how is it killing db?
with a BIT of timing its SOO easy to beat a pbox camper, I am always thankful when they do it cause i can score out of these situations most of the time

Bodom · Post by **Bodom** » 06-06-2003 21:20

I never said anything about not hearing a sound myself. My post was all about removing the charge up sound heard by others when you shoot in order to kill pbox camping and bring back shooting (which is dieing now).

Yes it's true you can beat a pbox camper, but the overall reduction in shooting in general due to pbox campers doesn't make up for the rare situations in which you beat them. Shooting was killed by pbox camping, or as I call it multiple keepers.

Another solution would be to make it so only a keeper can hear you charge up.

David, I'm not trying to bash but you didn't exactly strike me as being one to beat a pbox camper when we played. All your team did both games was broomstick goals everytime down the field. Maybe that was just a rare occurence tho.

theberkin8or · Post by **theberkin8or** » 06-06-2003 21:24

also, this pbox camping is causing people to use these 'funny' strategies of boost goals, which are more effective against this type of d, making 'true' offensive strategies of regular shots obsolete...

if you don't think this is a problem with the game, then you haven't been playing many scrims man o_O

basically, get rid of boost goals and pbox camping and this game will be much funner
-Uber

i think this saids it all, and if you say you can score most of the time with this type of d i say you are full of shit

else cy13 scores would be higher and you would have to do the bs superman goal :p plus just cuz you can get around it doesn't mean that it doesn't suck the fun out of db for everyone else

also bodom is exactally right about this one pbox camping is a direct result of the charge sound (which make no sense to begin with name one sport that has anything like it maybe if you had put it in and taken out shakie it would have been balanced but it isn't the way it isn't) take it out and pbox camping is no longer effective and poof db is instantly more fun.

Scotteh · Post by **Scotteh** » 06-06-2003 21:44

I couldn't agree more with Bodom and Berk. This is why DB has turned into a volley only game now a days, because its the easiest way to get past pbox campers. (that and "broomsticks") I loved db when the O depended on their shot, not how it is now. Please take out the charge up sounds, or just let the keeper hear it please.

Post by **DavidM** » 06-06-2003 21:54

turning off powerup sound is just unfair for defenders

i dont want a roulette, it should be fair to both

Scotteh · Post by **Scotteh** » 06-06-2003 21:59

You call pbox camping fair for the offense? It takes no skill in that. Why not take out the charp up sound in the beta and see how that goes.

Bodom · Post by **Bodom** » 06-06-2003 22:04

And how was implementing it fair to offensive players?

Pbox camping is killing DB david. I don't care if your team uses it, it needs to be changed regardless. People started quitting after 1.4b, after pbox camping came into play, because a lot of the skill/thinking involved with defense and offense was removed.

[1234]Jr · Post by **[1234]Jr** » 06-06-2003 22:30

Shooting isnt dying, i use it all the time.. just me..

Na, shooting wont die if people work on it, instead of these cheap and soon to be deceased boost tactics...

uberslacker · Post by **uberslacker** » 06-06-2003 22:46

um, yes, shooting is dying, with pbox camping its much easier to get a boost goal or a volley goal than a normal shot goal

and great idea bodom on how to get rid of it, without the chargeup sound for defenders it would be a lot harder to pbox camp and the offense could get shots off a lot more

and this doesn't make it unfair for the defense, this makes it fair for the offense, and brings back true shooting to db

and berk, i'm glad you liked my post there, hehe

Post by **DavidM** » 06-06-2003 22:51

gimme ideas that have nothing to do with the powerupsound, it will stay

btw, it can be done, its just very hard
go towards the defender, start powering up, walk balkwards (so he cant reach you), then shoot

but it was always aimed for teamplay, so that a defender has an advantage in a 1on1 situation is good

uberslacker · Post by **uberslacker** » 06-06-2003 22:57

DavidM wrote: gimme ideas that have nothing to do with the powerupsound, it will stay

btw, it can be done, its just very hard
go towards the defender, start powering up, walk balkwards (so he cant reach you), then shoot

but it was always aimed for teamplay, so when a defender has an advantage in a 1on1 situation is good

- you need to see how much better db would be without the powerup sound, the shake is enough for the defense, but i'm not trying to make it unfair for the d, just trying to make it so there aren't 5 goalies instead of 1 goalie and 4 d

-again, you're playing against some crappy d there, fadeaway shots never beat pbox campers, unless again you're playing crappy d

-i think that the shake is enough advantage for defenders, what the powerup sound is is total advantage over the offense, and again, this makes it so the o turns to volleys and boost goals

Post by **DavidM** » 06-06-2003 22:58

mah, dunno
this puts to much emphasize on ego actions

uberslacker · Post by **uberslacker** » 06-06-2003 23:03

lol, again, a good defender will keep an attacker away from shooting range, this would in turn make the offense use more 'teamplay' to get good passes and scoring opprotunities

again, you'll still have the shake in for the d and if you leave the chargeup sound for the goalie that will give him an advantage against 'ego actions' and that will make offenses pass around more to get a better look and a better chance of scoring

-NS-KillerRebel · Post by **-NS-KillerRebel** » 06-06-2003 23:55

wait... i always thought it was v3 that was killing db o_O