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Posted: 04-08-2003 14:26
by DavidM
Fruitcake wrote: another form of 'boost trick' which i do not consider lame is being boosted by teh enemy .... hard to pull of but effective when they just hold down the attack button :) anyway DavidM...why not bring back set jumping and have it as an option....then well see what servers will actually have it enabled ;)


no, basically different gameplay on every server sucks

Posted: 04-08-2003 15:10
by Fruitcake
meh i still prefer set jumping over sprint :| dunno wut every1 else wants tho

Posted: 04-08-2003 15:28
by GazMaN
meh , im unsure bout it!!

its basicallly a variation of 1.7s boostgoal trick which is lame, however it aint as effective, and i can only recall mayb 2 or 3 goals max scored against us like that, (then again , we got mach\o/) but still, i think its a bit nasty when teams spam it against you cos they cant think of any other ways to score

Posted: 04-08-2003 16:05
by Inphidel
I don't see whats so un-noob friendly with set jumping, its part of the basic game of unreal2003, if they don't know how it works then they havnt even played the game they bought.

personally i think having boosting require a little more timing isn't such a bad thing. althought i guess everyone likes seeing 5 guys in the air trying to volly the same ball. might as well make there only 1 jump cept you can just as high as a quad jump, only you'll start to fall if you let go of the jump button sorta like a rocket pack, thatd be pretty noob friendly.

;)

the only thing i say no set jumping for is goalies. they have a hard enough time....

Posted: 04-08-2003 17:37
by Axl
might as well make there only 1 jump cept you can just as high as a quad jump, only you'll start to fall if you let go of the jump button sorta like a rocket pack,
ooo i like that idea..

Posted: 04-08-2003 17:38
by theberkin8or
um davidm the "negitives" listed with set jumping are all really possitives except for the "luck" which really isn't luck it is mathmatical code obviously it isn't random. Since you are coding the game you could always make the time that you can do the double/quad jump a little more forgiving while not doing this free jump/hovering stuff that is now possible. boosting and timing volleys being harder would be a good thing not a bad thing, add some more things to learn and master and seperate skill levels.

dis i love you man but you are wrong about shooting, anything davidm can do to make shooting more useable again is a good thing, it is much more fun than the spam volley creates. I love tricks as well as the next guy (like give me back dribble and maybe even a slower n00bcannon) but not at the exspense of core gameplay

Posted: 04-08-2003 17:40
by theberkin8or
"might as well make there only 1 jump cept you can just as high as a quad jump, only you'll start to fall if you let go of the jump button sorta like a rocket pack,"

that would actually be kind of interesting, might actualy be the best but i haven't thought about it for very long... just sounds like it could be fun

Posted: 04-08-2003 17:43
by DavidM
theberkin8or wrote: "might as well make there only 1 jump cept you can just as high as a quad jump, only you'll start to fall if you let go of the jump button sorta like a rocket pack,"

that would actually be kind of interesting, might actualy be the best but i haven't thought about it for very long... just sounds like it could be fun


no wouldnt work, cause its also about the time that it takes to get up there, it creates other problems again if its too fast (1 high jump instead of 4 small ones)

Posted: 04-08-2003 17:45
by theberkin8or
maybe you are right like i said i didn't think about it very long but just sounded interesting

Posted: 04-08-2003 17:55
by Xelent
rocket vollies! yeah theres not prob with that... :/

Posted: 04-08-2003 17:57
by DavidM
making multijump a bit forgiving...thought about that too......but still, it would kill boosting, thats enough reason to keep it the way it is, its too good

my idea is to disable locking on flying players, so you have to play shoot passes which takes more skill at least

Posted: 04-08-2003 18:38
by NaB
so u can only pass to ppl on the ground. hmmm

i dunno, but its gonna be hard to get rid of this without a major change in gameplay :\

maybe u should never have taken set jumps out, then we woulndnt be used to it :\

wonder what it would be like with set jumps back :O

either way, if u dont find a good solution this will at best kill the DBL, at worst kill DB itself.

Posted: 04-08-2003 18:48
by RaGe*NL*
oeeee, its scary to find out something new, people practise on the trick, but nooo, nobody likes it (how surprising), go spend some time with ur def to counter it damnit :/

Posted: 04-08-2003 19:02
by fro
reduce the lock on 'flying' players, ie cannot target over a certain point in the y axis. dont want to make it impossible to target jumping players.

theres a difference between learning tactics and whoring moves

Posted: 04-08-2003 19:40
by NaB
rage, its a lame ass exploit. congratz, your teams laming of it brought it to prominence and hastened its elimination. do cy do anything but whore moves? :\