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the only people i see play regularly on that list are Tesal, GIB, Super and Scar now that hes back (just came back about a week ago)

Since GIB and Super have switched to offense basically, Tesal is basically forced to play D by Rush and Scar isnt too good considering he took like 2 months off :\

distrubed= pwnzor at teh D (damn pbox camper )


oo btw was tesal the first pbox camper? i seem to remember back in 1.4b and him playing a style that is simalar to what ppl now call pbox camping (btw i am not puting him down, he pwns me but i was wondering)

And you people want Deathball in UT2004 run by DavidM? Sheesh.

The whole damn community is telling him it's wrong and yet he persists with "It's my way or the highway"

Well the highway looks really good right now.

And as for shooting, you completely fuxed it up. I used to be one of the better shooters in 1.3-1.4 and now it's gone to nothing but volleys. Maybe for once you should listen to us.

listen? i though David lost his eyes and ears on a freakish ego trip.

You might be right surge... you might be right.

If it does get in UT2004, hopefully they'll do like Valve did with CS, hand it to an actual paid team.

i want it in ut2k4 but i figure that if it gets in epic will make davidm gets his act together and make the game play like the game play we used to love.... whould they do anything like db if actaull db doesn't get in? i was under the impression that the asnwer to that question would be no....but if they are going to put something like db in then i might have to rethink

volleys are fine, one reason for lots of volleys now is that everyones elarning how to pull them off, like how boosting has become a main task.

i shoot more then volley as its alot nicer to aim and fire with, also harder for defence to jump pu and hit it out of the way like volleys.

also a game is a game, this is not something that will change your life and marrage, i'm fine with everything thats come and as it does appear i go along with it. though some things like boost goals are just a little to easy to score with.

you lot need to try and adapt, not NO VOLLEYS NO BOOSTS NO EASY DEFENCE TO KILL.. you lot want it easy or you want it MEGA boring to play.

also surge i never ever see you in pubs, you play against bots or something stupid?

Here! Here!

Diab wrote: you lot need to try and adapt, not NO VOLLEYS NO BOOSTS NO EASY DEFENCE TO KILL.. you lot want it easy or you want it MEGA boring to play.

i don't know about you, but when something gets less fun its somewhat hard to 'adapt' and still be fine with it, and it was MEGA fun to play before, but its getting more frustrating and ultimately unexciting to play with every version release since 1.4b

Zanboo wrote: And you people want Deathball in UT2004 run by DavidM? Sheesh.

The whole damn community is telling him it's wrong and yet he persists with "It's my way or the highway"

Well the highway looks really good right now.

And as for shooting, you completely fuxed it up. I used to be one of the better shooters in 1.3-1.4 and now it's gone to nothing but volleys. Maybe for once you should listen to us.

Here! Here!

funny cuz shooting wasnt changed since 1.4

well with the shake, chargeup sound being uber loud, and pbox camping, it kinda messes up your chances of being able to score by shooting eh? also making vollies so easy didn't help either

shooting on the whole, not the power. As a game element its stayed the same but it gains a different implementation each version and some methods used in previous versions become less useful because of new defensive and offensive tactics created by the new version. Its not that its become harder to shoot, its just theres better alternatives when they really dont need to be there to play the game.

Diab: I dont play with 150 ping very well... you dont see me cause i'm not a euro... oh and cause i dont play pubs, they're worse than playing with bots these days. At least the bots stay in net.

from 1.3 to 1.6 it was being made for fair for defenders
(remember when it was soo damn easy to pull off volley goals in 1.3 and 1.4?)

DavidM wrote: from 1.3 to 1.6 it was being made for fair for defenders
(remember when it was soo damn easy to pull off volley goals in 1.3 and 1.4?)

lol, um no, it wasn't easy to pull off volley goals back then, then it was an actual talent to get a volley goal, now anyone (including me) can get one in

and as for being made 'fair' i agree before it was a bit unfair for defense, but now its completely unfair for the offense seeing as how a great (shooting) offense can get easily stopped by a mediocre defense